A Russian government statement said the vehicles are now waiting “until the PA and the Israeli sides agree on the time and ways of their transfer to the [PA].”
Russian BTR-70 armored personnel carriers (APC) destined for the PA
The terrorist organization Hamas is waiting to receive the APC's. Israel does not plan on letting them through.
Although they are scheduled to be delivered unarmed, the APC's in question can easily be turned into combat vehicles.
I was able to find all of the specs on line except the weaknesses. Hypothetically, this may become relevant. Please leave a comment and let me know if you know how one of these vehicles can be stopped.
| VEHICLE SPECS | ||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| BTR-70 | ||||||||||||||||
| Country of Origin | CIS (formerly USSR) | |||||||||||||||
| Role | Amphibious armored personnel carrier | |||||||||||||||
| Date Of Introduction | Late 1970s | |||||||||||||||
| Crew | 3 (commander, driver, gunner)) + 8 passengers | |||||||||||||||
| Combat Weight | 12.7 tons (11.5 mt) | |||||||||||||||
| Ground Pressure | ? | |||||||||||||||
| Drive Formula | 8 x 8 | |||||||||||||||
| Length, Overall | 24.72 ft (7.535 m) | |||||||||||||||
| Width, Overall | 9.19 ft (2.8 m) | |||||||||||||||
| Height, Overall | 7.33 ft (2.235 m) | |||||||||||||||
| Ground Clearance | 18.7 in (475 mm) | |||||||||||||||
| PERFORMANCE | ||||||||||||||||
| BTR-70 | ||||||||||||||||
| Engine | Two 120 hp (89 kw) ZMZ-4905 8-cylinder gasoline | |||||||||||||||
| Range | 373 miles (600 km) | |||||||||||||||
| Fuel Capacity | 92 gal (350 l) | |||||||||||||||
| Road Speed | 50 mph (80 km/h) | |||||||||||||||
| Cross Country Speed | 28 mph (45 km/h) | |||||||||||||||
| Swim Speed | 6.2 mph (10 km/h) | |||||||||||||||
| Fording Depth | Amphibious | |||||||||||||||
| Grade | 60% | |||||||||||||||
| Side Slope | 40% | |||||||||||||||
| Trench Crossing | 6.6 ft (2.0 m) | |||||||||||||||
| Vertical Wall Climb | 1.6 ft (0.5 m) | |||||||||||||||
| PROTECTION | ||||||||||||||||
| BTR-70 | ||||||||||||||||
| Armor | Hull: 0.39 in (10 mm). Turret: 0.28 in (7 mm) | |||||||||||||||
| ARMAMENT | ||||||||||||||||
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The BTR-70 (Bronetransporter-70) is a fully amphibious vehicle that is propelled through the water by a single water jet at the rear of the hull. The vehicle has an all-welded hull with improved protection over its frontal arc, as compared to the original BTR-60 series. The nose is also wider and the front of the vehicle provides added protection to the front wheels.
The commander and driver are seated at the front with the commander on the right and the driver on the left. The troop compartment is to the rear of the turret and the engine compartment is at the rear of the vehicle. The BTR-70 has a filtration and overpressurization system for NBC protection.
Like the BTR-60PB,the BTR-70 has good cross-country capability, high road speed, and large troop-carrying capacity. The redesigned seating arrangement allows the troops to sit back-to-back, facing outward. The vehicle's versatility and amphibious capability are also advantages.
Recognition features:
- An overall shape similar to the BTR-60 series.
- Three forward-facing periscopes and one side-facing periscope for observation to the front and sides for both the commander and driver.
- A turret identical to that fitted to the BTR-60PB and the BRDM-2 amphibious scout car.
- A commander's single-piece front-opening hatch cover and a driver's single-piece rear-opening hatch cover.
- Two front windows, one for the commander and one for the driver, which are covered in combat by an armored hatch cover hinged at the top.
- Three firing ports and one vision block in each side the troop compartment to the rear.
- Two square roof hatches over the top of the troop compartment, each with a circular firing port.
- A prominent gap between the second and third wheels.
- Cigar-shaped exhaust pipes mounted high on the rear of the hull that run down each side towards the rear.
- A single-piece rear-mounted hydro-jet cover.
- A trim vane that is erected at the front of the hull before entering the water and stowed on the top of the hull when travelling. On the BTR-60 series the trim vane is carried under the nose of the vehicle.
- Split rim wheels.
- Two foot steps on each side, between the first and second and third and fourth wheels and two small half doors, one on each side, that open forward between the second and third wheels
- A low-silhouette stretched body.
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If you do a doc search on google, you will find older copies of the US Army's Ranger and Special Forces handbook.
ReplyDeleteIn the enemy vehicle identification section, you will find the Russian BTR along with, I believe it is eight specific target points that a 7.62x54mm round can penetrate the armor. I believe there are a couple other US mil manuals that are available to the public with the same basic information. That is supposed to be a hard kill, as theoretically the round ricocheting around the interior will take care of key elements of the crew. That should give you a good starting point.
I believe if you do a thorough google search you may also be able to find de-classified US mil manuals on combating Russian armor. I just don't remember their FM numbers.
Nuke 'em. That should do it.
ReplyDeleteThey are similar to a US LAV armorwise - protection from small arms, but a 50 cal should punch right through them.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't aware that 7.62 would pierce them in some spots, that's good info, but I'd still want a 50 cal so I didn't have to aim so carefully.
NAPALM
ReplyDeleteas an old 11H, i can say that they are vulnerable to any decently armed and trained OPFOR.
ReplyDelete50 cal, AT-4/RPG and similar weapons will kill them outright, and, IIRC, so will 7.62 black tip.
anything larger than the above weapons, such as tank main gun rounds, Javelins, etc, are over kill... not that there is anything wrong with that.
From my time in USMC light armor (LAV-25's)... a .50 cal will go in one side and out the other, the longway. Not even a contest. LAW, AT4, Carl Gustaf, you name it, hell, probably 40mm grenade would probably achieve a mission kill. Not saying they're crappy vehicles, but they are NOT tanks, any more than LAVs are :)
ReplyDeleteAbove comment was me :)
ReplyDeleteNuke then from orbit- it's the only way to be sure...
ReplyDeleteThe BTR family of AFVs are thin-skinned. Like much of our legacy wheeled armour, they were built for speed and offered protection only from battlefield crap such as shrapnel, flying debris, SA fire and richochets. Much better than open half-tracks like the BTR-50, but no tanks.
ReplyDeleteThe BTR series is 60s-70s era Soviet garbage and long obsolete. Russia isn't offering much more than old junkers with a paint job.
The vehicle is underpowered and its automotive quality suspect. The PA will probably consider engine and tranny upgrades before long.
The engine is in the rear which means there are no rear exit doors for troops to deploy from. They must come out over top, so if engaging them, machine gunners should fire just over the top of halted BTRs to catch exiting soldiers.
As others have said, 50cal or better will hole them. Bear in mind that armour is thickest on the front.
BTRs are not MRAP! Atk mines will destroy/disable them easily.
M72 LAWS and RPGs are both overrated and may nor disable the BTR as readily as some think.
I'm betting the PA will use these machines largely as fuel-guzzling police cars.
CaptBill
Nowadays the only use for the BTR60/70PB is internal security - in the West. Stick a water hose on top and wash those plebs down the drain, lol.
ReplyDeleteSeriously though, the poor fools who happen to be inside one of these will definately meet their maker after 10 or 12 rounds of .50 AP. Unless of course they've been altered: ASSUME nothing, it makes an ASS of U and an ass of ME.
Strangelyhelpful
just some russian P.O.S's
ReplyDeleteIn the grenada invasion in 1983, The US took out 2-3 BTR in short order with M72 Laws and M2 .50. Image of some here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BTR-60_during_Operation_Urgent_Fury.JPEG
ReplyDeleteI think Billy Ray has the right Idea, Napalm.
ReplyDeleteNot very functional with a "medium well" crew...
Let those stupid BTRs roll across your territory to the PA, let the PA have them - they will be good target practice for the IDF ! ! !
ReplyDeleteThese tin cans are mere appetizers for your Merkava's - the Golanis will eat them for lunch with shoulder-fired weapons. Hell, even truck-mounted .50 cal technicals can destroy these antiques.
The Russians should be persecuted in the Hague for setting up Hamas like lambs to the slaughter . . . maybe it's time I took that long-overdue return trip to the Holy Land . . .
- STORMBRINGER SENDS
You must be damn proud of your female IDF soldiers and rightfully so.
ReplyDeleteMy first thought was that Russians teaching Palestinians maintenance means those tracks will be sitting idle before long.
ReplyDeleteI guess this means they won't have to use "UN" Ambulances to move their fighters around anymore.
ReplyDeleteAgainst infantry maybe a slight risk, in the hands of the Palestinians.....a joke! On the brighter side.......the gunner on a Merkava would enjoy having a nice moving target!
ReplyDeleteFrom personal experience, a .50 cal BMG shooting APIT (Armor Piercing Incendiary Tracer), will light up a BTR........period!
ReplyDelete"Talked to a friend of my who shot up a lot of them in the past in Iraq. He said the best way is to hit it right in the engine compartment from the top where the cooler is. He said do not try to hit anywhere toward the front of the vehicle.... Concentrate at the engine compartment. As for the tires. You can shoot at them as long as you are able to take at least 4 0r 5 of the wheels off or take the whole axle off."
ReplyDeleteThanks Dave
with a javelin or spike...what btr? small arms no. 50bmg deplete uranium like butter, heat rounds. or my favorite a herd of pigs...lol